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Etsy and eBay in one browser: what glues two shops
Das ARMANOS-Team7 min
Where two shops meet on one machine
Different logins and different tabs do not make different computers. Etsy and eBay read one set of hardware, one font list and one way out to the network, and they read it before you press sign in.
One value in common proves nothing: machines like that run into the millions. What proves it is the set, the one that repeats across both of your shopfronts and almost nowhere else.
| Where two shops overlap | What the platform sees of it |
|---|---|
| The machine under the browser | Screen, fonts, memory, graphics card |
| The way out to the network | Address, timezone, language |
| Browser storage | Cookies, local storage, cache |
| Links you paste | Tags saying who sent the visit |
| The rhythm of your day | When you list and when you reply |
One machine answers both tabs
Screen, fonts, memory and graphics card answer both platforms the same way, because one machine is doing the answering. Changing the login leaves those answers untouched.
A separate profile gives the second shop its own set of answers, and that set is derived from the profile itself. Here is how it came out across 900 desktop profiles of the current generation.
| Measured across 900 profiles | How many are distinct |
|---|---|
| Canvas drawings | 900 |
| Font lists | 900 |
| Declared screens | 18 |
| Graphics card names | 24 |
| Timezones | 64 |
A copied profile gets its own machine
Setting the second shop up as a copy of the first is convenient: same notes, same proxy, same scenario. The fingerprint is the one thing a copy does not inherit, and here is why.
Two profiles carrying one fingerprint are tied to each other more tightly than by anything else: to a platform that is one machine with two logins. So a copy comes with a machine of its own, and the values you picked by hand do not travel with it.
What the E-commerce scenario gives both shops
The E-commerce scenario opens a profile on Amazon and attaches two sets: the fingerprint and the protection against automation detection. Its counter lists are the general ones, link cleaning is on, and both shops get the same treatment.
What tells two shops apart is not the scenario settings, which a platform cannot see, but the address, the clock, the languages and the fingerprint. One scenario covers seven platforms, and the number of profiles equals the number of your shopfronts.
A pasted link joins two shopfronts
You copy a link to your own item out of an email, out of an ad account or out of somebody's post, and a tail of tags rides along at the end. A tag tells the platform who sent the visit and from which account.
The same tail arriving at Etsy and at eBay ties the shopfronts together with no fingerprint involved. So a profile strips those tags from the link before the visit: 40 of them today.
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Where the tail comes from
Ads, newsletters and other people's posts append tags to the end of an address.
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What it gives away
One tail on two shopfronts tells a platform that the person is one.
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What a profile does with it
A profile strips the tags before the visit and leaves the useful parts of the address.
Seven platforms and one daily ceiling
The E-commerce scenario names seven platforms, and Etsy and eBay stand there beside Amazon, Walmart, Shopify, WooCommerce and BigCommerce. The per-day numbers are shared, because the platforms are counting the same things.
Below are the daily ceilings of that scenario. The app writes them out on the profile card, under Safe daily ceiling, as a pair, today’s and the full one, and counts only page moves itself.
| Action per day | Guide |
|---|---|
| New listings | 10 |
| Listing edits | 40 |
| Buyer replies | 30 |
| Review requests | 40 |
| Account switches | 2 |
| Safe pace, pages | 120 |
How the card shows the six figures
During the ramp an action row shows today's figure and the full one behind a slash: two account switches on day seven are one on day one. From day seven a single figure remains.
Action rows carry no colour: the browser cannot count new listings or buyer replies, so there is nothing to colour them by. A second line under the figure gives the threshold, «warning at N», with no colour either: it is a guide, not a count. Colour lives only in the Safe pace bar of pages opened: amber from eight tenths of the day's figure and red at the figure itself.
The day's figure on the ramp never drops to zero. An action the scenario allows once a day shows one on day one as well, not zero.
Switching accounts shows on the first try
Of the six numbers above the tightest is the account switch: two a day. The number is a guide: the app shows it with the threshold «warning at 1», but it does not count switches and warns you of nothing by itself.
A new shop gets its first week as a ramp: on day one Safe pace gives it 24 pages out of 120, and the number grows day by day. A shopfront opened yesterday then does not behave like a warehouse that has run for a year.
What a deleted profile leaves behind
You close the shop and delete the profile, and the name of that profile easily stays in the launch log, with its rows still in the action count for the day. The profile list looks clean, and the traces of the old shopfront lie on the disk.
So deleting a profile takes the name out of the log, its rows out of the count and its pace along with them. Whatever could not be erased the app names to you outright, rather than showing a green tick over a directory it never cleaned.
Deletion takes two steps
The first step puts the profile in the trash. Before that the program closes its window, so the shop's browser does not live on by itself with no row in the list.
The second step is the final deletion from the trash, and only that one takes the traces away: extension state, schedules, notifications, the launch journal and the day's action count. Five stores forget the profile in one move.
If the profile's session lay in the shared folder between machines and could not be removed, the program says so outright. There will be no green tick over a directory that is still there.
How to check this yourself tonight
The check takes an evening and needs no purchase at all. Open both shopfronts in two profiles and put side by side what each one learns about you.
Compare the whole set rather than one value. If the set matches, then to a platform this is one machine, however different the logins look.
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Compare what the machine answers
Open the fingerprint check in both profiles and put the answers side by side.
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Compare the way out to the network
Address, timezone and language should not match between the two shopfronts.
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Look at the tail of a link
Paste a working link and make sure the tags never reached the platform.
What this does not claim
- It does not claim that separate profiles leave two shops unconnected. Your items, your photographs, your way of answering and your payment details stay shared, and no browser changes them.
- The per-day numbers here are a guide from the E-commerce scenario, not a rule of the platform. Etsy and eBay publish no thresholds of their own, and nothing says the two agree.
- Screen, core count and memory can match between two profiles of the same template. On real machines of one family they do match, and pulling them apart would mean inventing computers nobody ever built.
- The numbers above were measured on the fingerprint generation current today and on three desktop templates. A different generation and a different set of templates give different numbers.
Where you can see this yourself
Every number above comes out of code you can open and run.
- The seven platforms of the E-commerce scenario sit on one line, with the daily ceilings beside them
- packages/shared/src/index.js
- The ceiling for the day and the first week ramp are executed as numbers, not read as text
- packages/shared/src/index.js · apps/web/test/потолок-это-ориентир.js
- The fingerprint is derived from the profile, and a copy gets its own instead of the same one
- apps/desktop/test/profile-clone.js
- Tracking tags are cut when you follow a link in a live ARMANOS Browser
- apps/desktop/test/блокировка-живьём.js
- A deleted profile leaves no name in the log and no row in the count
- apps/desktop/test/delete-leaves-nothing.js
- A directory that could not be erased is named to the person
- apps/desktop/src/main/main.js · apps/desktop/test/purge-honesty.js
- Font lists across a hundred profiles diverge, and one profile does not shift between launches
- apps/desktop/test/fingerprint-consistency.js
Questions
- My Etsy and eBay are in different browsers, is that not enough?
- Two browsers on one computer answer with the same machine: screen, fonts, memory and graphics card are shared between them. What has to be separated is the machine, not the window.
- Will different proxies cover two shops?
- The address is one value among many, and it arrives from elsewhere. Fonts, memory and the graphics card are born on the machine in front of you, and a proxy leaves them alone.
- Can I set the second shop up as a copy of the first?
- The settings copy, the machine does not. A copy gets its own fingerprint, because two profiles sharing one fingerprint are tied together more tightly than by anything else.
- How many listings a day is safe?
- The E-commerce scenario holds a guide of 10 new listings a day and a safe pace of 120 pages. A new shop gets 24 pages on its first day.
- I switch between accounts ten times a day, does that show?
- The account switch is the tightest of the six numbers: the guide is two a day. The app does not count account switches, so keeping track of them is up to you.
- What leaves the disk if I delete the profile along with the shop?
- The profile directory goes, and so do its name in the launch log and its rows in the action count. If something could not be erased, you are told about it instead of being shown a green tick.
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